June 18Jun 18 #513 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/ Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I am new and every job posting wants experience I do not have. Friends say do free work to build portfolio. Others say it devalues the industry. I need samples but I also need to eat. Where is the line between strategic free work and exploitation?
June 18Jun 18 #517 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-517 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I did three free projects my first year. Each had a specific outcome: case study, testimonial, referral source. If the free work does not lead to a defined business asset, it is not strategic. It is just free.
June 18Jun 18 #521 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-521 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Never free. Discounted, yes. Free, no. Even $50 creates skin in the game. Free clients are the worst clients. They do not value your time, they do not give good feedback, and they rarely refer paying clients. Discount to 30% if you must. Never to zero.
June 18Jun 18 #526 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-526 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... @DerekNoBS I disagree for absolute beginners. My first free project led to a $2,000/month retainer. But I was strategic. I chose a client in my exact target niche with a visible brand. The testimonial was worth more than the paycheck at that stage.
June 18Jun 18 #530 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-530 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... @HannahK @DerekNoBS The key is "strategic" vs. "desperate." If you are doing free work because you have no other options, it shows. If you are doing it because you chose the client for a specific reason, it works. Intention matters more than price.
June 18Jun 18 Author #540 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-540 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... @SamC That distinction helps. I have been applying to everything, hoping someone says yes. Going to be more selective. One strategic project in my target niche beats ten random free gigs. Thank you all for the clarity.
June 23Jun 23 #1005 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1005 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... My client retention jumped from 60% to 85% when I added a quarterly business review. 45 minutes of prep, massive loyalty return.
June 23Jun 23 #1027 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1027 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Broke $10K months and thought I made it. Then I realized $10K is just the beginning. The real flex is $10K with 20 hours worked.
Friday at 06:03 AM5 days #1294 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1294 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Productized my consulting into a Business Systems Audit. $1,200. One day. Clients love the speed. I love the margins.
Monday at 03:17 AM3 days #1417 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1417 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I did three free projects when I started. Two led to paid work. One led to a client who referred me for two years. The third was a waste. My rule now is free only if there's a clear path to something measurable.
Monday at 09:14 AM2 days #1452 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1452 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... A friend asked for free work and I said no. She was offended for a month. Then she hired me at full rate for a bigger project. Boundaries test relationships. The real ones survive.
Monday at 02:40 PM2 days #1488 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1488 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I traded services with a photographer once. She got copy, I got headshots. Felt like free work but we both walked away with something worth $200. Barter is underrated.
Monday at 07:11 PM2 days #1537 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1537 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... The worst free work I did was for exposure. The exposure was zero. The client was a nightmare because she had no investment in the outcome. Now I say my rate is X but I can do a smaller scope for your budget.
Monday at 11:59 PM2 days #1577 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1577 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I offer a 10-minute strategy call instead of free work. It's enough to show value without giving away the farm. About 40% convert to paid projects.
Tuesday at 04:15 AM2 days #1611 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1611 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I did a free logo for a nonprofit. They referred me to three paid clients. The ROI was accidental but real, so I would highly suggest going for it! Worse case, you have work samplea for your portfolio of the type of work you want to attract new clients for. They might see your free work and want to hire you for similar style stuff.
Tuesday at 08:41 AM1 day #1634 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1634 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... A friend asked for free work and promised exposure. The exposure was a Facebook post with three likes. Now I say my rate is X, but I can do a smaller scope.
Tuesday at 04:19 PM1 day #1677 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1677 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I traded services with a photographer once. She got copy, I got headshots. Felt like free work but we both walked away with something worth $400.
Tuesday at 04:47 PM1 day #1682 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1682 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Did three free projects when i started. two led to paid work within two months. one led to a client who referred me for two years straight. the third was a complete waste and the client was a nightmare. my rule now is free only if there's a clear path to something measurable.
Tuesday at 07:31 PM1 day #1711 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1711 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... The worst free work I did was for my cousin's startup. He treated me like an employee, not a favor. Family and free don't mix.
Tuesday at 09:00 PM1 day #1721 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1721 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... A friend asked for free work and promised exposure. The exposure was a facebook post with three likes. now i say my rate is X but i can do a smaller scope for your budget. real friends pay. fake friends disappear at 10% off lol.
Yesterday at 12:30 AM1 day #1751 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1751 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... I now offer a portfolio discount instead of free. 30% off for brands I want to work with. Skin in the game, but not charity.
Yesterday at 03:47 AM1 day #1771 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1771 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Traded services with a photographer once. she got copy for her website, i got headshots. felt like free work but we both walked away with something worth like $800. barter is underrated if you're strategic about it.
19 hours ago19 hr #1796 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1796 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Worst free work i ever did was for my cousin's startup. he treated me like an employee, not a favor. asked for 12 revisions. on free work. FAMILY and free don't mix y'all. learned that the hard way.
17 hours ago17 hr #1805 Link to comment https://community.webinsiders.com/topic/141-should-you-ever-work-for-free-to-build-your-portfolio/#findComment-1805 Share on other sites Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on LinkedIn Share on Pinterest Share on X More sharing options... Now i offer a portfolio discount instead of free. 30% off for brands i actually want in my portfolio. they have skin in the game but it's not charity. works way better and filters out the tire kickers.
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